Proyecto LDS: resultados (Fase 1)

[acafar]

Hola,

Ya tengo pasados a limpio prácticamente todos los datos de la primera fase del proyecto LDS. Los resultados son muy buenos:

De 322 pares, hemos descartado por inexistentes aprox. 174 pares. Por tanto después de la primera fase seguimos con aprox. 322-174 = 148 pares, lo que está muy muy muy bien

De esos 148 tendremos que ver cuáles pueden encajar de verdad con los pares LDS. Una buena parte, casi diría la mayoría, son pares dudosos, con separación o ángulo muy distintos. En la mayor parte los descartaremos; como dije la idea es tener al final unos cuantos pares de los que podamos asegurar con cierta seguridad que es en efecto el par que apuntó el astrónomo Luyten.

De momento quería daros las gracias a todos los que habéis participado, porque ha sido realmente impresionante, tanto por la cantidad (finalmente 14 listas entregadas) como por la calidad, los comentarios que habéis añadido, y lo cuidadosos que habéis sido.

En cuanto tenga pasados todos los datos comenzará la fase 2, que será más fácil, tanto por haber menos dobles porque la labor que hay que hacer es ahora algo más mecánica.

Saludos,

Rafa

[pastorgalactico]

Hola;

Me apunto a la 2ª fase y tambien quisiera aprender a usar el programa redud para la medicion de dobles que pueda usando la webcam si se puede claro.

[acafar]

Hola,

Lo del uso de reduc tendrá que esperar a que alguien con más experiencia que yo haga algún pequeño tutorial o taller on-line...

De momento os pongo los resultados preliminares de la fase 1 con las coordenadas de cada par "encontrado":

Id CoordFase1A CoordFase1B
LDS 2 00 12 01.53 -40 28 40.8 00 12 00.42 -40 28 36.6
LDS 13 00 20 20.02 -47 06 09.4 00 20 20.24 -47 06 10.5
LDS3181 00 35 03.87 -14 21 04.9 00 35 03.12 -14 20 47.4
LDS5287 00 40 04.44 -14 03 34.0 00 39 59.5 -14 01 11.4
LDS5291 00 44 42.90 -01 20 18.6 00 44 53.63 -01 21 19.1
LDS5293 00 45 04.55 -01 08 43.0 00 45 04.49 -01 09 18.3
LDS3118 00:04:51.54 +37:21:18.3 00:04:37.88 +37:23:36.5
LDS3194 00:44:30.71 +17:48:17.0 00 44 34.08 +17 45 53.7
LDS5298 00:47:34.01 -02:01:25.6 00:47:47.32 -02:01:06.0
LDS 38 01 13 02.29 -24 46 16.9 01 12 59.24 -24 46 04.7
LDS3265 01 20 35.20 +06 42 16.3 01 20 35.10 +06 42 13.3
LDS5349 01:45:40.40 -08:15:30.6 01:45:40.40 -08:15:30.6
LDS5182 02 01 47.20 -02 18 05.2 02 01 46.23 -02 18 01.7
LDS3336 02:02:10.79 +32:36:56.0 02:02:17.17 +32:37:20.9
LDS5366 02:06:37.26 -07:07:40.8 02:06:36.80 -07:07:18.4
LDS3350 02:09:17.80 -17:49:49.9 02:09:14.09 -17:50:05.2
LDS5373 02:14:26.27 -11:04:25.8 02:14:25.22 -11:04:28.4
LDS3363 02:15:15.02 -24:39:43.1 02:15:13.69 -24:40:06.1
LDS 75 02:26:15.97 -62:05:48.8 02:26:27.75 -62:07:47.8
LDS5384 02:28:27.40 +00:38:38.3 02:28:24.04 +00:39:30.5
LDS3415 02:41:50.75 +29:09:00.6 02:41:40.39 +29:10:51.2
LDS3417 02:42:29.01 +33:29:41.1 02:42:29.51 +33:30:31.3
LDS3433 02:51:14.25 -22:27:04.7 02:51:15.32 -22:26:59.9
LDS3467 03 14 53.54 +27 42 29.2 03 14 53.53 +27 42 40.8
LDS5423 03 23 59.79 -01 18 41.8 03:23:59.48 -01:19:05.3
LDS5421 03:21:28.17 -18:53:26.4 03:21:28.60 -18:53:52.1
LDS3482 03:21:37.01 +08:20:30.9 03:21:37.01 +08:20:30.9
LDS3502 03:32:12.45 +30:17:46.9 03:32:13.42 +30:17:42.4
LDS3522 03:41:53.45 +35:14:48.4 03:41:52.23 +35:15:13.6
LDS1148 03:42:55.79 +25:15:53.8 03:42:52.86 +25:16:39.5
LDS3530 03:46:20.00 +06:44:23.9 03:46:20.29 +06:44:11.6
LDS3531 03:47:49.24 +08:04:11.2 03:47:50.24 +08:04:22.2
LDS3534 03:49:41.65 +30:58:03.8 03:49:41.65 +30:58:03.8
LDS3542 03:53:15.08 +17:26:15.5 03:53:11.96 +17:23:36.2
LDS5463 03:59:37.45 +12:04:05.6 03:59:37.45 +12:04:05.6
LDS3567 04 18 01.60 +48 43 03.9 04 18 02.50 +48 42 59.9
LDS5557 04 25 39.43 +25 44 59.0 04 25 27.42 +25 44 57.8
LDS5556 04 26 23.57 +51 27 40.8 04 25 27.42 +25 44 57.8
LDS3589 04 28 17.36 +15 10 06.3 04 28 19.23 +15 18 43.3
LDS1185 04 40 21.71 +27 08 52.0 04 40 23.07 +27 12 24.0
LDS5486 04:04:24.21 +18:29:01.9 04:04:23.75 +18:29:00.4
LDS5522 04:13:49.81 +10:33:56.2 04:13:49.81 +10:33:56.2
LDS5566 04:29:01.96 +14:55:22.1 04:29:01.96 +14:55:22.1
LDS 130 04:44:51.33 -70:26:42.1 04:45:02.27 -70:27:57.8
LDS5605 04:48:19.78 +31:35:48.9 04:48:19.80 +31:35:41.9
LDS3618 04:48:25.75 +57:29:45.6 04:48:18.76 +57:32:03.1
LDS5646 05:01:22.49 -28:12:13.4 05:01:10.51 -28:15:42.1
LDS6170 05:27:49.23 +45:06:40.3 05:27:48.46 +45:06:52.9
LDS6190 05:36:50.06 -63:59:18.2 05:36:51.04 -63:59:12.6
LDS5673 06:15:01.26 -28:32:14.4 06:15:02.58 -28:30:58.9
LDS5684 06:47:23.53 +06:07:47.3 06:47:23.38 +06:08:12.5
LDS3765 07:50:15.25 +07:11:40.5 07:50:14.51 +07:11:52.1
LDS3783 08 18 07.35 +39 47 09.2 08 18 19.66 +39 43 25.3
LDS3832 08 55 11.17 +13 29 06.5 08 55 10.46 +13 28 47.2
LDS 217 08:22:47.48 -57:26:52.9 08:22:47.86 -57:26:45.1
LDS 234 08:46:05.11 -50:08:05.1 08:46:03.68 -50:08:03.1
LDS 239 08:54:48.46 -05:20:05.7 08:54:47.12 -05:19:30.9
LDS3865 09 12 45.82 -21 14 06.5 09 12 45.44 -21 14 11.6
LDS3868 09 16 21.46 +30 14 18.7 09 16 19.48 +30 14 41.2
LDS3877 09 21 08.39 +42 38 04.1 09 21 10.25 +42 38 15.9
LDS3891 09 25 52.50 -15 30 24.5 09 25 37.51 -15 29 35.2
LDS3892 09 26 41.55 +20 55 31.3 09 26 40.21 +20 55 48.3
LDS1698 09 42 40.64 +70 02 15.2 09 42 57.58 +70 02 35.2
LDS3944 09 56 26.16 -01 54 59.8 09 56 27.63 -01 54 56.0
LDS3872 09:18:53.97 -08:47:02.8 09:18:55.74 -08:46:53.7
LDS3956 10 06 55.23 +04 55 12.3 10 06 51.27 +04 55 22.6
LDS3963 10 12 37.54 -24 12 44.8 10 12 37.28 -24 12 43.1
LDS3979 10 20 22.38 +15 42 49.8 10 20 22.27 +15 42 59.6
LDS5713 10 35 21.20 -31 37 51.0 10 35 10.30 -31 38 35.2
LDS4007 10 39 37.86 -08 57 54.5 10 39 36.75 -08 57 51.2
LDS2318 10 41 13.93 +57 55 11.8 10 41 12.83 +57 55 10.5
LDS4009 10 41 28.32 -15 25 50.9 10 41 27.28 -15 25 41.7
LDS5719 10 49 36.15 -29 46 51.3 10 49 21.47 -29 48 49.9
LDS 332 11 04 32.72 -66 38 17.2 11 04 47.48 -66 36 52.6
LDS4120 11 35 30.23 -19 46 49.1 11.35 30.18 -19 47 05.5
LDS2610 11 42 30.55 +59 47 36.7 11 42 41.92 +59 45 55.7
LDS4157 11 54 25.33 -29 17 54.6 11 54 26.02 -29 17 43.2
LDS 376 11 59 00.45 -71 02 27.4 11 58 51.02 -71 01 52.6
LDS4163 11 59 38.45 +15 45 49.2 11 59 37.72 +15 45 46.2
LDS4117 11:34:03.11 +46:55:19.0 11:34:07.66 +46:55:51.4
LDS4165 12 00 23.13 +15 31 44.8 12 00 22.92 +15 32 07.5
LDS4169 12 01 40.68 -12 46 13.2 12 01 41.53 -12 46 34.9
LDS 384 12 06 16.64 -44 20 08.1 12 06 07.11 -44 21 37.8
LDS 401 12 18 25.43 -67 56 14.1 12 18 32.68 -67 54 20.4
LDS 405 12 21 47.53 -34 04 51.4 12 21 45.11 -34 05 06.9
LDS5751 12 25 25.96 -17 06 18.1 12 25 27.27 -17 06 40.2
LDS 421 12 50 22.98 -62 00 33.2 12 50 31.51 -62 00 11.3
LDS 422 12 52 08.06 -51 32 51.1 12 52 02.70 -51 33 22.1
LDS4180 12:07:31.98 +46:54:02.8 12:07:32.01 +46:56:17.7
LDS4181 12:07:36.78 +15:33:04.3 12:07:37.76 +15:33:00.5
LDS1286 12:14:25.75 +27:23:59.8 12:14:24.80 +27:24:25.4
LDS1289 12:18:15.20 +28:19:18.5 12:18:15.32 +28:21:15.9
LDS4200 12:18:31.82 -32:28:51.0 12:18:30.32 -32:28:48.8
LDS4202 12:19:25.88 +33:34:37.1 12:19:18.81 +33:33:06.1
LDS1295 12:21:23.22 +12:22:51.2 12 21 31.26 +12 28 07.6
LDS4221 12:30:09.00 +32:09:36.5 12:30:11.73 +32:08:00.2
LDS3049 12:32:30.75 +30:50:29.9 12:32:31.98 +30:50:19.8
LDS2653 12:36:00.61 +64:57:58.9 12:35:56.84 +64:57:44.3
LDS6262 12:41:34.29 +41:05:18.0 12:41:40.86 +41:03:07.6
LDS6263 12:41:43.01 +26:14:39.1 12:41:43.99 +26:14:47.7
LDS4274 12:48:26.32 +30:49:17.5 12:48:22.78 +30:49:38.6
LDS4275 12:48:37.54 +04:26:14.5 12:48:38.36 +04:26:35.6
LDS4278 12:49:26.69 +32:12:59.0 12:49:22.67 +32:11:38.3
LDS1339 12:53:18.03 +33:40:08.5 12:53:19.91 +33:38:38.4
LDS4300 12:57:44.39 -21:49:21.9 12:57:45.78 -21:49:03.3
LDS1374 13 15 05.89 +27 30 17.5 13 15 08.62 +27 30 28.8
LDS1376 13 16 40.38 +31 25 56.6 13 16 25.25 +31 23 42.6
LDS1381 13 18 53.94 +30 55 38.9 13 18 54.78 +30 57 25.0
LDS4376 13 33 31.76 -21 40 59.0 13 13 32.55 -21 40 46.0
LDS4306 13:01:05.88 +09:13:25.8 13:01:07.34 +09:13:48.5
LDS4309 13:02:41.31 +15:21:36.4 13:02:31.73 +15:20:09.1
LDS4328 13:13:43.47 -04:29:25.3 13:13:42.78 -04:29:42.1
LDS4344 13:19:22.02 -09:38:28.6 13:19:25.90 -09:39:12.5
LDS4350 13:22:15.70 -07:06:58.1 13:22:17.31 -07:07:13.2
LDS4352 13:22:49.36 -10:47:33.0 13:22:49.49 -10:47:17.7
LDS4359 13:25:26.57 -15:47:56.2 13:25:27.83 -15:48:11.9
LDS5780 13:27:46.13 -33:11:30.3 13:27:21.42 -33:12:24.2
LDS4373 13:31:34.93 +44:32:13.6 13:31:33.89 +44:31:44.7
LDS4402 13:45:36.35 +47:33:56.7 13:45:31.60 +47:33:21.1
LDS6286 13:48:10.04 +06:41:54.7 13:48:15.09 +06:41:10.9
LDS3103 13:48:23.38 +03:31:13.6 13:48:18.74 +03:31:29.9
LDS2334 14 00 56.10 +66 55 41.3 14 00 48.28 +66 54 49.9
LDS 467 14 01 06.14 -63 40 25.9 14 01 09.24 -63 40 37.5
LDS2921 14 03 45.15 +56 25 39.8 14 03 30.92 +56 26 07.7
LDS 470 14 03 52.00 -62 58 50.0 14 08 09.42 -61 50 34.4
LDS4434 14 07 24.17 -16 54 54.0 14 07 23.30 -16 54 32.6
LDS 473 14 08 10.57 -61 50 05.9 14 08 09.42 -61 50 34.4
LDS1412 14 16 46.43 +50 42 43.9 14 16 38.19 +50 47 16.8
LDS1416 14 20 06.93 +16 08 14.0 14 20 07.21 +16 08 19.4
LDS 491 14 33 54.79 -61 09 14.0 14 33 53.45 -61 09 11.0
LDS 502 14 48 56.94 -67 49 02.7 14 48 52.63 -67 49 52.4
LDS4430 14:02:34.22 -20:40:13.9 14:02:34.22 -20:40:13.9
LDS 513 15 01 10.66 -78 27 38.5 15 01 03.47 -78 27 47.5
LDS4523 15 02 18.97 +40 29 20.4 15 02 18.87 +40 29 28.7
LDS4531 15 09 00.58 -05 51 20.4 15 09 01.50 -05 51 40.7
LDS 521 15 14 30.78 -57 53 08.7 15 14 30.49 -57 52 35.3
LDS4542 15 15 36.34 +28 57 26.4 15 15 27.9 +28 59 05.0
LDS 530 15 28 40.72 -72 19 14.5 15 28 31.81 -72 18 16.0
LDS4607 15 56 05.51 +28 56 44.4 15 56 03.73 +28 56 40.8
LDS4616 15 59 10.92 +03 59 21.2 15 59 11.11 +03 59 15.9
LDS4633 16 08 41.07 -17 10 33.6 16 08 41.07 -17 10 33.6
LDS 553 16 13 22.50 -56 46 58.0 16 13 24.11 -56 47 05.4
LDS 554 16 18 34.86 -33 00 53.2 16 18 35.08 -33 01 13.7
LDS4665 16 24 04.57 +22 44 39.2 16 24 05.19 +22 44 46.6
LDS4687 16 41 30.83 +16 47 21.8 16 41 29.17 +16 47 23.4
LDS 545 16:00:14.63 -61:10:20.1 16:00:16.76 -61:10:15.7
LDS4717 17 00 29.28 +28 17 11.5 17 00 27.21 +28 16 59.7
LDS 581 17 03 51.50 -49 34 16.4 17 03 50.83 -49 34 10.4
LDS4763 17 50 11.91 +08 53 26.0 17 50 10.75 +08 53 18.0
LDS4741 17:23:27.37 +56:22:10.3 17:23:22.24 +56:20:51.9
LDS1001 17:41:40.19 +17:07:58.1 17:41:42.91 +17:07:39.4
LDS 609 17:51:30.51 -77:49:00.6 17:51:39.31 -77:48:59.9
LDS5864 18 26 59.29 +02 57 21.2 18 27 07.44 +02 58 06.3
LDS5241 18:38:00.03 +04:51:13.4 18:37:59.03 +04:51:40.3
LDS 647 18:40:27.35 -72:00:44.2 18:40:36.52 -71:59:50.3
LDS4799 18:46:23.18 +39:58:20.4 18:46:24.11 +39:58:23.6
LDS5868 18:53:53.47 +17:19:52.7 18:53:53.75 +17:19:42.7
LDS2759 19 06 41.43 +63 19 40.1 19 06 38.77 +63 22 05.8
LDS2444 19:32:45.95 +68:12:21.3 19:32:46.20 +68:12:09.1
LDS4819 19:48:43.34 -31:13:13.1 19:48:22.04 -31:11:34.0
LDS 684 19:50:27.48 -77:41:25.7 19:50:27.17 -77:41:01.9
LDS1920 19:51:35.45 +76:07:11.7 19:51:38.46 +76:07:11.5
LDS 691 19:56:17.53 -67:13:58.2 19:56:34.35 -67:13:35.7
LDS4843 20 26 49.47 +08 26 00.7 20 26 49.67 +08 25 46.0
LDS 695 20:16:49.99 -84:18:35.6 20:18:45.58 -84:21:39.3
LDS1039 20:17:12.93 +16:42:42.1 20:17:08.94 +16:40:48.0
LDS 705 20:18:33.35 -71:11:10.4 20:17:34.45 -71:13:15.1
LDS4838 20:22:38.33 +15:10:54.4 20:22:38.94 +15:11:12.0
LDS4868 21:11:32.09 +02:16:18.8 21:11:33.51 +02:16:05.4
LDS4885 21:25:57.47 +60:07:18.7 21:25:39.52 +60:08:18.6
LDS5926 21:42:15.16 -27:44:24.9 21:42:37.02 -27:43:34.1
LDS 759 21:53:34.70 -69:22:25.6 21:53:40.39 -69:21:54.6
LDS1984 22:21:53.69 +02:29:41.4 22:21:53.69 +02:29:41.4
LDS5946 22:21:53.86 +02:29:25.8 22:21:53.69 +02:29:41.4
LDS4976 22:32:54.73 +02:18:42.9 22:32:53.72 +02:18:43.3
LDS4993 22:45:19.58 +04:54:21.7 22:45:20.66 +04:54:14.7
LDS5145 23 58 24.97 -37 50 03.2 23 58 25.81 -37 50 07.7
LDS6013 23:12:11.66 +00:26:47.7 23:12:28.15 +00:25:39.3
LDS5058 23:12:21.57 +32:41:54.5 23:12:23.07 +32:42:16.0
LDS6018 23:15:19.58 -26:17:05.0 23:15:30.33 -26:16:11.0
LDS2034 23:18:32.79 +70:14:22.9 23:18:32.40 +70:14:18.5
LDS6026 23:20:29.95 -28:27:57.8 23:20:29.66 -28:27:49.3
LDS5077 23:21:37.48 +29:44:24.1 23:21:38.49 +29:44:34.0
LDS5079 23:22:00.26 +09:46:12.7 23:22:00.74 +09:46:11.7
LDS5126 23:49:18.81 +25:52:40.3 23:49:19.19 +25:52:22.5
LDS6407 23:53:50.27 -37:29:11.8 23:53:50.04 -37:29:24.6
LDS 828 23:56:07.73 -10:32:52.9 23:56:05.88 -10:33:05.0
LDS2066 23:57:07.41 -25:19:44.6 23:57:07.49 -25:19:55.9


De estos la mayor parte desaparecerán por no encajar sus datos con los de los pares que andamos buscando, pero esta es la lista de la que paro ahora. Antes de pasar a la fase 2 tengo que hacer un par de cosas que seguramente disminuirán mucho la lista. Os iré contando según progrese.

Saludos,

Rafa

[pastorgalactico]

Hola;

He comprovado que algunas dobles estudiadas en mi lista sus coordenadas no coinciden con las que yo obtuve.
¿Eso a que es devido?

Saludos.

[acafar]

Hola,

Es posible que hayan cambiado pero menos de 1 o 2" de diferencia. Como cada par la ha mirado más de una persona puede que haya tomado las coordenadas del otro compañero (las he escogido al azar pero tras ver que eran muy similar). También puede ser que me haya equivocado...

Si quieres ponme alguna concreta y te cuento, tengo las notas de cómo lo he hecho.

En todo caso las coordenadas se mejorarán antes de empezar la segunda fase, de hecho ahora estoy en ello.

Cualquier duda que tengáis consultadme, lo mismo me he equivocado al copiar los datos.

Saludos,

Rafa

[acafar]

Hola sigo avanzando...cuento lo que hago por si le interesa a alguien:

- He buscado cada par en el catálogo 2MASS que se suele utilizar para Astrometria, es decir para obtener separación y ángulo. De ese mismo catálogo me he quedado con las coordenadas precisas que andábamos buscando.

- Me he quedado con los pares que cumplen que o bien la diferencia entre el ángulo WDS y el ángulo calculado es < 25º, o bien
la dif. entre el dato del catálogo WDS para la separación y la separación calculada es de como mucho un 15%. Quedan 158 pares (de más de 300 al principio, y aún se reduciran bastante más). Aquí los copio:



Id CoordFase1A pa sep PaLast SepLast AMag BMag APM BPM
LDS 2 00 12 01.56 -40 28 41.4 288.347095644748 12.6596132302684 315 13 14 14.7 -096-089
LDS3181 00 35 04.10 -14 21 02.9 328.466982753403 21.0802581477217 359 24.2 16.1 16.9 +090+052
LDS5287 00 40 04.50 -14 03 38.8 332.978360663075 163.54167971583 334 163.2 17.6 18.1 +127+018
LDS5291 00 44 42.96 -01 20 18.2 110.62265629493 171.289740401651 112 144.6 14.9 15.3 -068-065
LDS5293 00 45 04.63 -01 08 43.1 182.18170488308 34.8876893665068 183 34.7 12.2 18.3 -070-100
LDS3118 00 04 51.60 +37 21 19.1 310.21662295424 212.848900295735 310 150 13.3 18.3 +123+015
LDS3194 00 44 30.74 +17 48 15.9 161.044012067658 151.543356397361 161 151.2 12.9 18 +053-140
LDS5298 00 47 33.97 -02 01 26.0 84.7187060819906 199.273521256239 84 99 16.1 16.1 +092-036
LDS 38 01 13 02.53 -24 46 18.4 288.077852316982 44.0207723772773 315 46 14.7 15 +119+017
LDS3265 01 20 35.21 +06 42 10.6 290.903094934754 11.2100913467736 291 11 17.2 18 +076-073
LDS5349 01 45 40.44 -08 15 29.5 320.690113944196 185.85832421653 320 187 17 17.2 +111-051
LDS5182 02 01 47.05 -02 18 06.6 286.586201951382 12.2581667662691 287 12 16.2 17.5 +064-082
LDS3336 02 02 10.87 +32 36 56.1 73.0062464275054 84.335399202559 70 90 16 18 +104-015
LDS5366 02 06 37.37 -07 07 41.3 342.698799539166 23.230667087217 342 23 15.5 18 +136+029
LDS3350 02 09 17.84 -17 49 50.9 254.313937010162 55.2265810078695 254 55 15.8 16.7 +168+078
LDS5373 02 14 26.31 -11 04 27.0 261.577994548206 15.4859034660441 262 16 15.9 16.3 +096+010
LDS3363 02 15 15.10 -24 39 43.6 218.710397574159 28.959470479883 218 28 18 18.4 +180+011
LDS 75 02 26 15.90 -62 05 47.2 145.422733069343 144.393878679997 135 144 14.8 14.9 +146-034
LDS3415 02 41 50.81 +29 09 00.5 309.126593108912 174.92333683888 231 173 16.7 18 +099-058
LDS3417 02 42 28.98 +33 29 40.5 7.27392089337003 46.6571445115932 4 50 12.8 16.1 +137-016
LDS3433 02 51 14.25 -22 27 04.7 72.7790656463104 15.6854057381585 72 155 15.3 17.7 +156+055
LDS3467 03 14 53.56 +27 42 30.9 358.468904760864 11.8086161433549 357 12 14.5 17.6 +171+015
LDS5423 03 23 59.80 -01 18 42.3 187.997328341349 23.4371371276552 190 30 15.4 18.3 +119-012
LDS5421 03 21 28.18 -18 53 26.9 167.088561373378 26.507426855704 172 29 15.9 17.3 +090-043
LDS3482 03 21 37.01 +08 20 30.5 249.018306037755 17.2623053656254 249 17 14.5 18.1 +081+063
LDS3502 03 32 12.56 +30 17 45.6 108.779034359013 13.4970753775403 108 13.5 13.86 17.05 +147-079
LDS3522 03 41 53.54 +35 14 47.1 329.107868435634 29.0014596613211 328 29 14.9 18 +105-083
LDS1148 03 42 56.18 +25 15 52.8 318.729943153628 60.3625248835276 329 52 16.4 17.4 +517-040
LDS3530 03 46 20.02 +06 44 23.9 160.691950399455 13.2021563248577 161 13 14.48 15.31 +125+017
LDS3531 03 47 49.25 +08 04 09.5 51.5113630181242 18.2558018600878 50 18 12.6 16.7 -126-022
LDS3542 03 53 15.20 +17 26 15.7 195.654397804597 165.35648449201 194 137 14.9 15.6 +106-033
LDS5463 03 59 37.53 +12 04 04.4 227.54466225063 20.2553696545526 228 20 18.1 18.4 +096-036
LDS3567 04 18 01.83 +48 43 02.5 120.239756664201 9.84274844131632 120 10 16.7 17.7 +159-088
LDS5557 04 25 39.54 +25 44 59.3 269.28582372651 162.723023135959 269 161 11.7 16.9 -002-042
LDS1185 04 40 21.80 +27 08 49.6 4.29290693966461 212.492482055236 2 212 15.3 16 -038-104
LDS5486 04 04 24.26 +18 29 01.5 256.333370390247 7.20677202208411 260 8 15 17.9 +033-055
LDS5522 04 13 49.78 +10 33 56.2 242.894318370884 6.25763462353222 250 8 12.5 13.3 +059+000
LDS5566 04 29 01.94 +14 55 22.0 222.284169770551 54.5231188167008 315 60 14.6 15.6 +022-080
LDS 130 04 44 51.41 -70 26 41.1 144.95298454078 91.306836240802 135 9.3 13.6 13.8 -111+142
LDS5605 04 48 19.81 +31 35 49.1 176.457654008419 7.84138134420934 185 8 15.8 17.5 +095-108
LDS3618 04 48 25.90 +57 29 46.2 338.311664999775 148.18754106721 353 155 16.8 18.2 +170-033
LDS5646 05 01 22.54 -28 12 14.8 217.150068284524 262.108656243367 216 261 15.6 18.2 +049-092
LDS6170 05 27 49.22 +45 06 40.0 327.961465360926 14.9702497093079 328 15 16.9 17 +083-083
LDS6190 05 36 50.06 -63 59 18.3 48.3191400124061 9.04593393636353 48 8 17.8 18.3 +209-201
LDS5684 06 47 23.59 +06 07 46.0 356.13814805545 25.2970416632558 357 25 15.6 18 +103-164
LDS3765 07 50 15.34 +07 11 37.3 315.900857277966 16.3774384212509 315 15.9 16.67 17.01 +022-177
LDS3783 08 18 07.43 +39 47 08.9 148.016265969778 264.83085191483 147 258 15.8 16.4 -074-127
LDS3832 08 55 11.17 +13 29 06.2 211.210487288441 21.9298437968317 210 22 14.8 17 -095+009
LDS 217 08 22 47.45 -57 26 53.0 23.369116515204 8.60024638687201 6 7 15.3 16.8 -383+474
LDS 234 08 46 05.12 -50 08 05.1 277.983605867494 13.7595544092065 315 13 14.1 15 -149+013
LDS 239 08 54 48.48 -05 20 06.0 330.155059190476 39.1179126676315 315 20 13.2 13.8 -050-062
LDS3865 09 12 45.88 -21 14 08.6 237.948591603951 7.62500878435632 242 8 14.2 14.5 -093+061
LDS3877 09 21 07.84 +42 38 02.3 61.2168918896937 23.7929020548557 61 24 14.36 14.63 -120-059
LDS3891 09 25 59.33 -15 30 27.8 278.935706084524 327.5946760757 261 323 14.2 17 -170-017
LDS3892 09 26 41.59 +20 55 30.9 310.754463257569 24.5733151278424 309 25 17.1 18.2 -136-056
LDS3944 09 56 27.01 -01 54 47.4 164.34345481151 14.0388903092128 163 14 14.9 18.3 -097-065
LDS3872 09 18 53.91 -08 47 03.5 72.5613290579462 28.1927203234558 73 28 16.2 16.8 -062-132
LDS3956 10 06 55.18 +04 55 05.9 205.670877548536 25.0957976866996 205 25 16 18.2 -015-107
LDS3979 10 20 22.02 +15 42 48.2 350.202326753264 10.1415180003167 349 10 17.1 18.4 -112-011
LDS4007 10 39 37.83 -08 57 55.7 285.620383208879 15.655777559807 286 16 16.3 17.7 +083-085
LDS2318 10 41 14.07 +57 55 12.0 267.9028723247 9.33669342946187 266 9 14.6 17.5 -210+005
LDS4009 10 41 28.36 -15 25 52.1 302.492575879869 16.9345260649412 301 16 15.5 16.5 -053+083
LDS5719 10 49 36.21 -29 46 53.1 238.31170487508 223.813504789287 238 226 14.8 17.9 -112+031
LDS 332 11 04 33.06 -66 38 17.1 46.6503421452487 122.606419849284 45 116 14.4 15 -075+050
LDS4120 11 35 30.12 -19 46 50.1 184.210051242113 16.1499801074154 183 16 16.8 17.7 -132-072
LDS2610 11 42 30.66 +59 47 36.5 139.722139709773 132.857900393935 139 94 16.2 16.7 -170-030
LDS4157 11 54 25.35 -29 17 54.6 37.2415130798002 14.6921430856348 36 14 17.15 17.9 -133+094
LDS 376 11 59 00.51 -71 02 26.6 308.112772497242 58.2270589795131 315 53 14.5 14.9 +048+087
LDS4163 11 59 38.40 +15 45 48.2 252.430097700391 11.651126860047 254 12 15.3 16.5 -165-067
LDS4117 11 34 03.31 +46 55 18.7 54.6027440266591 55.1113795985832 54 55 12.3 13.3 +132-080
LDS4165 12 00 23.12 +15 31 44.0 350.960155596681 22.5387552333379 352 22 15.3 15.8 -128+000
LDS4169 12 01 40.83 -12 46 14.2 150.016404815158 24.9956966411904 149 25 14.4 18.4 -132+009
LDS 384 12 06 16.44 -44 20 11.5 227.941418468369 129.637918310177 225 134 13.6 14.1 -128-020
LDS 401 12 18 24.85 -67 56 14.4 20.1649169492432 121.119708351706 225 124 14.6 14.9 -150+000
LDS 405 12 21 47.46 -34 04 51.8 242.041293580385 33.3128222440574 45 57 12.7 12.9 -060-003
LDS 421 12 50 22.77 -62 00 33.7 70.3670792158813 66.2806756350272 45 67 15.7 16 +078+045
LDS 422 12 52 08.02 -51 32 51.4 237.984055205267 59.7436987174452 225 53 11 13.7 -134+087
LDS4181 12 07 36.78 +15 33 03.1 104.591337339399 14.5610579109351 117 8.5 15.8 16.5 -097-035
LDS1286 12 14 25.79 +27 24 00.1 333.01020315406 28.2318070480339 33 28 16.2 16.9 -130+033
LDS1289 12 18 15.19 +28 19 18.8 0.949170026612515 117.617343872894 178 51 16 16 -125-001
LDS4200 12 18 31.83 -32 28 50.5 276.140314314012 18.9770084642998 276 19 15.7 18.2 -135-118
LDS4202 12 19 25.88 +33 34 37.1 224.285564290812 126.231959166112 223 89 13.7 14.7 -180+000
LDS4221 12 30 09.02 +32 09 35.8 159.531267094018 102.092239499809 102 93 16.6 16.9 -046-026
LDS3049 12 32 30.88 +30 50 29.6 120.23756765429 18.0069347641771 120 18 14.9 15.4 -132-032
LDS6262 12 41 33.48 +41 05 18.7 150.326631871003 150.37777812332 145 149 11.4 12.5 -188+047
LDS4274 12 48 26.31 +30 49 17.0 295.190108599473 50.1302150958803 247 50 15.9 16.8 -049-029
LDS4275 12 48 37.51 +04 26 13.7 26.8241887425124 25.5236918608675 27 26 17.7 18 -119-057
LDS4278 12 49 26.74 +32 12 59.5 212.413646615991 95.7094938998997 202 95 15.1 17.2 -014-043
LDS4300 12 57 44.39 -21 49 21.8 47.4010517561475 26.497009206475 50 25 12.2 12.4 -101+006
LDS1374 13 15 05.90 +27 30 16.3 71.1063775338375 36.2255839532017 72 132 13 16 -102-042
LDS1381 13 18 54.08 +30 55 35.3 5.3889352750278 107.557539713014 4 108 13.1 17 +026-107
LDS4376 13 33 31.71 -21 41 00.1 42.1806421721082 18.1399265925249 40 19 14.4 16.2 +115-007
LDS4306 13 01 05.87 +09 13 25.9 42.5706267601039 30.9484124706139 42 31 13.4 16.7 -111+095
LDS4309 13 02 41.41 +15 21 36.9 237.740481298358 163.412970801384 237 163 15.2 17.5 -124+021
LDS4328 13 13 43.46 -04 29 25.6 211.836971964448 20.077419286565 211 20 14.7 16.3 -102-056
LDS4344 13 19 22.01 -09 38 27.9 127.529826981667 72.1766268895449 104 20 14 17 -117+037
LDS4350 13 22 15.78 -07 06 58.4 122.928394152853 28.1531221192389 122 28 16.6 17.8 -105-009
LDS4352 13 22 49.41 -10 47 33.1 6.83833814677662 15.2065771851902 6 15 15 15.2 -104-047
LDS4359 13 25 26.59 -15 47 56.7 130.9735442416 23.8938124994027 131 24 14 17.1 -069-062
LDS5780 13 27 46.15 -33 11 30.6 260.024776020765 315.385753110848 260 316 14.7 17.7 -090-048
LDS4373 13 31 35.04 +44 32 13.2 201.408003114587 31.007459108049 192 50 13.5 17.2 -103+076
LDS4402 13 45 36.34 +47 33 55.9 233.714273205146 59.5362572000518 243 55.5 15.3 18.4 -230+000
LDS3103 13 48 23.48 +03 31 13.4 283.15424966555 71.9958186759573 282 72 16.3 17.3 -093-016
LDS2921 14 03 45.22 +56 25 39.2 283.055404867262 121.377173957358 285 34 9.04 11.2 -061+042 -069+008
LDS4434 14 07 24.28 -16 54 54.0 330.33433654659 24.4893533910625 330 25 16.3 16.9 -144+000
LDS 473 14 08 10.81 -61 50 06.8 197.675926950833 29.5019771765868 225 31 15.8 16.3 -046-053
LDS1412 14 16 46.41 +50 42 44.2 343.958151923809 283.577089352937 343 284 16.3 16.5 -375+041
LDS1416 14 20 06.93 +16 08 13.1 31.0077400745544 5.98112275902701 328 6 14 17.5 -168-052
LDS 491 14 33 54.86 -61 09 13.4 285.821738903449 10.1259116859699 315 10 15.1 15.4 +000+140
LDS 502 14 48 56.94 -67 49 02.2 205.030368815235 54.658067226213 225 55 14.7 15.7 -093-075
LDS4430 14 02 34.24 -20 40 15.2 110.712142939746 9.57854449897789 108 9.5 16.7 17.8 -180-023
LDS 513 15 01 09.21 -78 27 43.3 250.13404715518 23.5354058429397 272 24 15.2 16.5 -171-103
LDS4523 15 02 19.07 +40 29 18.7 352.132503052444 8.26055700474847 353 8 13.1 17.6 +015-059
LDS4531 15 09 00.58 -05 51 22.7 146.855007589514 23.4156022268846 152 23 13.6 17.6 -090-027
LDS4542 15 15 36.46 +28 57 25.7 311.606786163048 148.299262071479 211 149 17.8 18.3 +084-076
LDS 530 15 28 40.95 -72 19 14.8 325.113616155419 70.6342303648329 135 70 15.7 16 +130-007
LDS4607 15 56 05.54 +28 56 43.3 262.629417401602 23.8750777921256 247 26 15.2 16.4 -107+034
LDS4616 15 59 10.99 +03 59 19.7 148.061809662469 4.53489469697027 152 5 12.8 13.9 -165-017
LDS4633 16 08 41.10 -17 10 34.2 35.9668778685517 4.90166329044933 40 6 14 18.3 -119-063
LDS 553 16 13 22.25 -56 46 55.3 131.317305876514 22.7555766406809 119 14 15.8 16.2 -017-339
LDS 554 16 18 34.93 -33 00 54.1 173.154364466639 20.993676184597 180 22 15.2 16.5 -047-065
LDS4665 16 24 04.53 +22 44 38.1 48.72656365943 11.4279350100779 49 11.5 14.2 17 -113-108
LDS 545 16 00 14.57 -61 10 19.1 75.0376533536819 16.017034954872 45 16 15.9 15.9 -040+030
LDS4717 17 00 25.93 +28 17 08.6 120.575270525068 18.5913624946425 148 18 17 18.3 -131+004
LDS 581 17 03 51.43 -49 34 19.9 316.493598552643 8.52216146859984 320 8 14.6 15.8 -097-219
LDS4763 17 50 11.92 +08 53 24.4 246.00564404545 19.1662312976745 245 18.5 14.8 16.5 -139-085
LDS4741 17 23 27.43 +56 22 08.9 208.814168383856 87.8449756912965 246 91 13.6 13.7 -090+098
LDS1001 17 41 40.29 +17 07 57.0 115.557973156711 42.4290250200353 115 40 13.2 14.4 -044-042
LDS 609 17 51 30.53 -77 49 03.6 88.3071752611861 28.571811073415 86 29 16.2 16.9 -023-329
LDS5864 18 26 59.17 +02 57 18.0 68.9377260506265 132.162014319854 49 73 13.3 15.7 -045-089
LDS5241 18 38 00.02 +04 51 13.1 329.065201839629 29.5512249993594 330 29 14.8 17.2 -044-128
LDS4799 18 46 23.17 +39 58 19.6 70.8886416233505 10.5783377963573 71 10.5 15 18.3 -160+017
LDS5868 18 53 53.53 +17 19 52.7 158.083116360633 10.3025954732093 155 10 16 18.3 +043+131
LDS2759 19 06 41.54 +63 19 40.1 353.029943043191 146.557028230411 355 217 12.7 16.2 -023+059
LDS2444 19 32 46.04 +68 12 21.0 174.587558248866 11.9187319391183 164 8 16.2 17.4 -082+084
LDS 684 19 50 27.77 -77 41 28.3 357.330227716809 24.0020382204551 315 25 14.8 15.6 -036-156
LDS4843 20 26 49.58 +08 25 59.7 166.750139462527 15.2265286115851 167 15 15 17.7 +137-049
LDS 695 20 16 50.95 -84 18 34.8 137.214731208076 251.606866582666 135 140 13.6 15.2 +047-065
LDS1039 20 17 13.01 +16 42 41.0 206.749770153661 126.878914771977 207 127 13 14.2 +008-049
LDS 705 20 18 33.56 -71 11 11.7 246.230556065995 310.808284585861 225 306 15.6 17.4 +030-106
LDS4838 20 22 38.34 +15 10 53.9 24.6820580289608 19.393888449297 26 19 15.6 18 -108-065
LDS4868 21 11 32.22 +02 16 11.4 106.273657521019 22.1991170728592 106 22 13.65 15.39 +172-021
LDS4885 21 25 57.51 +60 07 17.6 294.348532678372 147.105153265882 294 146 16.7 16.8 -047-095
LDS5926 21 42 15.10 -27 44 25.5 80.4382176269203 295.478261908393 80 284 14.8 15.3 +114-076
LDS 759 21 53 34.80 -69 22 25.1 45.2162173599618 43.2312572590197 45 51 17.7 17.8 +019-088
LDS5946 22 21 53.91 +02 29 26.3 351.152981903499 15.8084819524967 352 15 16.3 16.9 +124+024
LDS4976 22 32 54.74 +02 18 42.9 270.619976348315 14.6409301975779 262 19 15.27 15.35 +179-012
LDS4993 22 45 19.63 +04 54 22.9 116.748511692419 18.532774484956 117 18 15.1 18 +104-018
LDS5145 23 58 24.89 -37 50 02.6 114.241398852937 11.3375683225741 125 21 14 17.2 +042-117
LDS6013 23 12 11.68 +00 26 47.3 105.514465551638 256.575582417285 106 259 13.2 17.4 -065-086
LDS5058 23 12 21.55 +32 41 54.5 40.4615309087876 29.1473938428706 40 29 13.36 14.89 +147+030
LDS6018 23 15 17.54 -26 17 00.0 104.151824895944 26.5071505538141 104 26 14.4 14.5 +115+042
LDS2034 23 18 33.23 +70 14 22.0 208.43693365607 3.96703072330052 210 13 15.3 16.5 +634-074
LDS6026 23 20 30.00 -28 27 58.1 336.037324172508 9.210645040527 26 9 14.3 18.3 +145-027
LDS5077 23 21 37.60 +29 44 23.8 53.1844917465399 16.5273301693138 55 16 13.9 17.1 +142+013
LDS5126 23 49 18.91 +25 52 40.6 163.093993843728 18.5458602917142 164 18 17.2 17.2 +189+020
LDS6407 23 53 50.47 -37 29 11.5 192.326519638482 13.2732038545863 12 13 12.1 14.1 +350-012
LDS 828 23 56 07.70 -10 32 52.8 246.493059037566 29.7676668062947 225 29 14.2 14.5 -062-103

Por ejemplo la primera línea

LDS 2 00 12 01.56 -40 28 41.4 288.347095644748 12.6596132302684 315 13 14 14.7 -096-089

indica que las coord. correctas para

LDS 2 son 00 12 01.56 -40 28 41.4, que le hemos calculado un ángulo de 288.35º y una sep. de 12.6", frente a 315º y 13"
que tenía el catálogo. Además las mag. en el catálogo son 14 y 14.7 y la velocidad de la primaria -096-089.

En la fase 2 trataremos de obtener valores más precisos para las velocidades y magnitudes usando los catálogos desde Aladin.

En cuanto pueda pondré un mini-tutorial para la nueva fase, que es más sencilla, sobre todo si participamos los mismos.

Saludos,

Rafa

[almach]

Hola Acafar,

¿No te baila la vista?

Para cuando esté todo a punto para la "fase 2"... ya me mandarás el listado correspondiente.

Y sobretodo, gracias por compartir con nosotros tu tiempo y tu saber "doblero"

Saludos

[Titanio]

Lo mismo te digo acafar gracias por todo lo que haces y nos enseñas

saludos

[almenara]

aunque sea repetitivo ............muchas gracias .
espero el tutorial y el nuevo listado.
un abrazo.

[rcacho]

Excelente trabajo acafar!!!

Puedes contar conmigo para la fase 2

Un saludo!